RFC1211 - Problems with the maintenance of large mailing lis(3)

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9102091407.AA06473@decpa.pa.dec.com Date: Tue, 12 Feb 91 11:17:41 PST From: Ann Westine westine@rwa.isi.edu Hi Raj, I will readd you to the IETF list. However, if I receive more error messages like t
  
<9102091407.AA06473@decpa.pa.dec.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 91 11:17:41 PST
From: Ann Westine <westine@rwa.isi.edu>

Hi Raj,

I will readd you to the IETF list. However, if I receive more error
messages like this, then I must take your name off the list again.
I've sent messages to the postmaster at DEC but the problem isn't
corrected. Your address isn't the only one, there's CALLON and a few
others.

Maybe you can check into this. Here's the header from one of the
many error messages I received.

Regards, --Ann

Date: Wed, 9 Jan 91 17:04:41 -0800
From: MAILER-DAEMON@decwrl.dec.com (Mail Delivery Subsystem)
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
To: owner-ietf@ISI.EDU

----- Transcript of session follows -----
mail11: Error from DECnet MAIL object on node "erlang",
during mail delivery to <ERLANG::JAIN>.
Remote error code is 0x7e81fa, message is:
%MAIL-E-OPENOUT, error opening !AS as output
-RMS-E-PRV, insufficient privilege or file protection violation
(can't decypher error code)
550 <jain@ERLANG.DEC.COM>... User unknown

----- Recipients of this delivery -----
<jain@ERLANG.DEC.COM> (bounced)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Date: Tue, 12 Feb 91 17:54:20 EST
From: "Raj Jain, LKG1-2/A19, DTN: 226-7642, 508-486-7642
12-Feb-1991 1751"
<jain@erlang.enet.dec.com>
To: westine@ISI.EDU
Subject: Re: Request to add to IETF

The error message that you sent is unfortunately my mistake and has
nothing to do with DECWRL. One day I reset protection on all my files
and directories and didn't realize that even the system did not have
the privilege to write mail messages on my disk. I discovered it only
after several people sent phone messages to me. Thanks for adding my
name again. I will try to be careful. -Raj

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F.36. User Unknown

a. Request to be Readded to IETF List

Date: Mon, 11 Feb 91 10:03:54 PST
From: "Paul Ciarfella DTN 227-3548 Outside 508 952-3548
11-Feb-1991 1301"
<ciarfella@levers.enet.dec.com>
To: ietf-request@ISI.EDU
Subject: add me to the ietf list (again)

Hi -

Could I be added to the ietf distribution list (again). I must have
been dropped from the list somehow. This happened to me before the
last ietf - I had to get my name reregistered then, too.

Thanks,

Paul Ciarfella ciarfella@levers.enet.dec.com

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b. Message to User Regarding Readd and Previous Problems

To: "Paul Ciarfella DTN 227-3548 Outside 508 952-3548 11-Feb-1991
1301" <ciarfella@levers.enet.dec.com>
Cc: ietf-request@ISI.EDU
Reply-To: westine@ISI.EDU
Subject: Re: add me to the ietf list (again)
In-Reply-To: Your message of Mon, 11 Feb 91 10:03:54 -0800.
<9102111803.AA11116@decpa.pa.dec.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 91 11:05:46 PST
From: Ann Westine <westine@ISI.EDU>

Hi Paul,

Every couple of months I have lots of error messags from several
individual mailboxes on ENET.DEC.COM. Here is a typical one. Since
I cannot reach you I am forced to delete your mailbox.

I have sent several messages to the postmaster at DEC but nothing has
been corrected. Perhaps you can look into this.

--Ann

Return-Path: MAILER-DAEMON@decwrl.dec.com
Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 90 19:53:19 PST
Received: from venera.isi.edu by zephyr.isi.edu (4.1/4.0.3-4)
id <AA11360>; Tue, 11 Dec 90 19:53:19 PST
Posted-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 90 19:42:03 -0800
Received: from decpa.pa.dec.com by venera.isi.edu
(5.61/5.61+local)
id <AA08309>; Tue, 11 Dec 90 19:53:17 -0800
Received: by decpa.pa.dec.com; id AA12106; Tue, 11 Dec 90 19:42:03
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 90 19:42:03 -0800
From: MAILER-DAEMON@decwrl.dec.com (Mail Delivery Subsystem)
Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
Message-Id: <9012120342.AA12106@decpa.pa.dec.com>
To: owner-ietf@ISI.EDU

----- Transcript of session follows -----
mail11: input timeout reading remote object
get_status: Connection timed out
(temporary failure)

mail11: Error from DECnet MAIL object on node "levers",
during mail delivery to <LEVERS::CIARFELLA>.
Remote error code is 0x7e81fa, message is:
%MAIL-E-OPENOUT, error opening !AS as output
-RMS-E-CRE, ACP file create failed
-SYSTEM-W-DIRALLOC, allocation failure on directory file
(can't decypher error code)
550 <ciarfella@LEVERS.ENET.DEC.COM>... User unknown

----- Recipients of this delivery -----
<hayden@LEVERS.ENET.DEC.COM> (queued, will retry)
<ciarfella@LEVERS.ENET.DEC.COM> (bounced)
<anil@LEVERS.ENET.DEC.COM> (sent)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

c. Response from User Regarding Problem

Return-Path: ciarfella@levers.enet.dec.com
Received-Date: Wed, 13 Feb 91 13:51:25 PST
Received: from venera.isi.edu by zephyr.isi.edu (4.1/4.0.3-4)
id <AA26215>; Wed, 13 Feb 91 13:51:25 PST
Posted-Date: Wed, 13 Feb 91 13:51:02 PST
Received: from decpa.pa.dec.com by venera.isi.edu (5.61/5.61+local)
id <AA04585>; Wed, 13 Feb 91 13:51:22 -0800
Received: by decpa.pa.dec.com; id AA14420; Wed, 13
Feb 91 13:51:00 -0800
Received: from levers.enet; by decwrl.enet; Wed, 13 Feb 91 13:51:02 PST
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 91 13:51:02 PST
From: "I'll die for my country but I won't kill for Texaco
13-Feb-1991 1641"
<ciarfella@levers.enet.dec.com>
To: westine@ISI.EDU
Subject: re: add me to the ietf list (again)

Hi Ann,

Could we try another address for me? The old address has been
plagued by disk problems which might explain why the mail is not
getting delivered.

The new address to register is:

ciarfella@quiver.enet.dec.com

I will check into the problem on this end. Sorry about the tone of
my first message but this has been a never-ending problem for over 8
months.

Thank you,

Paul C

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5. Security Considerations

Security issues are not discussed in this memo.

6. Authors' Addresses

Ann Westine
USC - Information Sciences Institute
4676 Admiralty Way
Marina del Rey, CA 90292-6695

Phone: 213-822-1511

EMail: Westine@ISI.EDU

Jon Postel
USC - Information Sciences Institute
4676 Admiralty Way
Marina del Rey, CA 90292-6695

Phone: 213-822-1511

EMail: Postel@ISI.EDU

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